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RiverCrochet01/22/20251 replyview on HN

"0 x" is only valid if x is a countable noun.

"No x" is valid for any noun.

Liquids are an example of non-countable nouns - "I have no water" but "I have zero oranges."

Some thoughts:

- English requires the use of an article with singular nouns, because the question of "which X" is important.

- This question is impossible for plural nouns (no "which X" when X is 2 or more), and where the noun doesn't actually exist - because it's meant as a type or because it physically doesn't exist.

- So these situations require no article to be used.

- English is so flexible that a phrase like "two oranges" can be "singularized" and therefore a sentence like this is possible: "Take the two oranges and put them here." What's implied and meant here is "1 group of two oranges" so it's still consistent.

- That's all brought up because it's another place in the language where zero and plural obey the same logic.


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thaumasiotes01/22/2025

> English requires the use of an article with singular nouns, because the question of "which X" is important.

Well, that obviously can't be true, or other languages would have the same requirement.

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