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larkost01/22/20251 replyview on HN

The idea of a pardon is exactly that: it erases the record of the crime/conviction.

I think you are thinking of a commutation. That ends the punishment while not absolving the person of the crime.

So the January 6th criminals who got pardons no longer have a criminal record (on this count at least). The 14 people who were only granted commutations are still counted as felons.


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WaitWaitWha01/22/2025

I must have read it incorrectly:

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/200...

> As these opinions confirm, a presidential pardon removes, either conditionally or unconditionally, the punitive legal consequences that would otherwise flow from conviction for the pardoned offense. A pardon, however, does not erase the conviction as a historical fact or justify the fiction that the pardoned individual did not engage in criminal conduct. A pardon, therefore, does not by its own force expunge judicial or administrative records of the conviction or underlying offense.