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KaiserPro01/23/20251 replyview on HN

> whereas if he was only guilty of running a website,

Yes, he was guilty of running a website, which on the face of it seems innocent right? Sure thats an argument. "i'm just providing an online location for this to happen, but I don't know whats going on"

Apart from he was _also_ running an escrow service, Now to run an escrow service you need to create a contract with conditions to allow money to be released. The problem is that to say "oh he didn't know what was going on" is a provable lie, because to keep the escrow trustworthy, you need to arbitrate, to arbitrate requires knowing what was supposed to be delivered and why it didn't get delivered.

Now, escrow isn't free, you're taking a risk holding that money. So Ross takes a cut.

But the problem is, that money comes from illegal activities. He knows this, so he needs to find a way to make the money legit. This means fraudulently laundering it.

The problem there is that when you combine laundering money and drugs trafficking, you get compound sentences. see https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/operation-foxhound-nets-47...

which has:

> Those arrested face sentences of 10 years to life in prison for the narcotics violations and up to 20 years for the money laundering violations.

However

I want to find agreement, because I want to make sure that understand I'm not saying your viewpoint is wrong, I think your anger is directed in the wrong place.

The sentence is within tolerance for the scale and combination of offences, the murder allegations are a red herring, and didn't materially affect the sentence.

For a large number of drug users, silkroad provided a safer way to obtain drugs, both in terms of violence and quality.

The people that ultimately set the bounds for these sentences are congress. They have chosen the war on drugs, which I think we can agree has caused more violence that it has stopped. The courts did exactly as they are supposed to do with the laws that they had at their disposal. The way the court operated was correct.

What is not correct is the federal governments approach to drugs.


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AnthonyMouse01/24/2025

> "i'm just providing an online location for this to happen, but I don't know whats going on"

It's not even that. It's a matter of, okay, there is a gas station next to the highway. They sell gas to anyone who shows up. "They don't know those people are speeding", wink.

They know those people are speeding. If you went up to the average gas station attendant and asked them if they knew their customers were speeding, they would probably admit they know, because the speed limit is below the speed of the median car and everybody knows it. You may also have other ways of proving they know. They may even know in specific cases rather than just in general. So they're knowingly making money from all of this illegal activity. A dangerous offense that causes thousands of fatalities. Literally making more money than they would otherwise, because cars use more gas at very high speeds, and knowingly enabling the unlawful activity, because those cars don't run without gas.

Should gas station workers all be in prison for life, or is that a crazy penalty for that type of offense?

> The sentence is within tolerance for the scale and combination of offences, the murder allegations are a red herring, and didn't materially affect the sentence.

There can be more than one source of the problem. I'm not disputing that Congress has passed some bad laws.

The issue is, there is still a range of penalties for that offense, and he got the very top of the range. For some reason.