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Ancapistani02/19/20252 repliesview on HN

With absolutely no malice intended: you step back a bit, lick your wounds, and try to figure out why your message and candidate failed - just like the GOP did for the past four years.

Four years feels like a long time when it has just started; it isn’t so long at all in hindsight. Moreover, you have two years before the next opportunity you have to disempower Trump (midterm elections). The campaigns for those start in a year or so, so if you’re going to cripple Trump by taking back Congress now is the time to be introspective.

The electorate is not irreconcilable, but change doesn’t happen when you double down on the same course.


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zeven702/19/2025

Thank you for a non-malicious response, but (also respectfully) I am not a Democrat, and your response seemed to me more geared toward answering "How can I deal with policy changes that I disagree with?" I am more concerned about the potential for the complete capitulation of American democracy to totalitarianism than any particular platform issues. What's happening right now is only a small part standard disagreements between parties (the GOP banning trans athletes, rebalancing the budget, approaching foreign relations differently) and much more about half the country being entranced by a cult of personality while the leaders in a position to stop a president from becoming a king instead are bowing down to him.

> try to figure out why your message and candidate failed

I don't like Harris' message. I probably disagree with her on a majority of political debate topics. I am a centrist and would agree with her on some things, but I would have considered myself a right leaning centrist more than a left leaning centrist. Her message failed for me too. I am just dismayed that the country elected _this_ man. A convicted felon who has provably lied more than any other person on record in the history of humanity, who already tried to overthrow an election, is only self interested, a bully, a sexual assaulter, a conman, a swindler: _this_ man? And now he's doing what you knew he would do, and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it.

I don't want to know how to get Kamala 2.0 to win an election. I want to know how to get back to Bush v. Gore.

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intended02/19/2025

It’s not a candidate issue, when the media and messaging doesn’t get to the other voters.

If a scientist going up against a fraud, and the fraud wins the debate, then it’s not a debate.

This is what happened back when experts went to Fox and talked about climate change in the 90s.

They were simply obliterated. Even if a point was made, it would be killed and something else floated during the evening shows.

Because it’s not a debate. It’s not about truth, or democracy.

Trump dodged every debate after Harris came on the scene. He was not humiliated for this.

One team wants to win. The other team wants a functioning nation.

The electorate is functionally irreconcilable if the message never gets to them, and their party punishes bipartisan behavior.

And this is not what america was set up to survive. It was assumed that people would reach across the aisle.

Even if you win the next election. The ground work for Trump 3.0 and beyond remains.

People need to look at Fox News, and develop ways to get past their censorship and message curation.