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autoexeclast Wednesday at 8:01 PM1 replyview on HN

Even if everyone agreed that the system was secure, and they absolutely don't, see for example

https://web.archive.org/web/20210126201848mp_/https://palant...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkyzek/signal-new-pin-featur...

I think we should all agree that outright lying to users on the very first line of their privacy policy page is totally unacceptable.


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orblivionlast Wednesday at 8:14 PM

You cited this so I think this is what you mean:

"Signal is designed to never collect or store any sensitive information."

I interpret this, I think reasonably, to not include encrypted information. For that matter they collect (but probably don't store) encrypted messages. The question is, does PIN+SGX qualify as sufficiently encrypted? This line is a lie only if it does not.

Sorry I skimmed those articles, I don't want to read them in depth. But it sounds like they are again ultimately saying "PIN+SGX is not secure enough".

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