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grandempire02/20/20252 repliesview on HN

Ok. But the nazi platform is labor unions, universal healthcare, retirement programs, profit redistribution, etc. your quote doesn’t contradict this.

If you have some specialized definition of socialism that this doesn’t meet. That’s fine. But this is nothing like the libertarianism or small government conservatism.


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dragonwriter02/20/2025

> If you have some specialized definition of socialism that this doesn’t meet.

I don't know that “when the working class democratically (either via democratic control of the state, through democratic control at the level of individual firms or industries, or otherwise) control the means of production” is actually a “specialized” definition of socialism.

Socialism is not centrally about the state providing goods, Its about who controls the means of production. Provision of public goods by the state is an expected outcome of the kind of socialism where a democratic state is the vehicle of proletarian control of the means of production, but it is not the production and delivery of those goods, independent of the nature of the state and who is empowered to control the means of production through it, that makes the system “socialist”

Führerprinzip is about as opposed to socialism as any element of any real or hypothetical system can be.

piva0002/20/2025

Labour unions? Nazis destroyed labour unions, what the fuck are you on about? That's patently wrong history.

Sturmabteilung occupied all trade unions, arrested union leaders and threw them into concentration/labour camps.

Go read about the Nazi creation of the German Labour Front a little before spewing this absolute bullshit.

Why are you trying to rewrite history?

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