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ksynwa02/20/202525 repliesview on HN

What's Elon's beef with USAID? I would think he would go after something like food stamps first owing to his libertarian ethos. Maybe he sees USAID as a completely benevolent handout and a waste of money? I cannot begin to understand why.


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sen02/20/2025

> U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID): The USAID Inspector General initiated a probe into Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine

From a House Committee report matching Elon’s actions to agencies he has personal issues with:

https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02....

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jonp88802/20/2025

Eliminating foreign aid seems to be a common cause of neo-conservative movements.

Boris Johnson shut down the British equivalent(Department for International Development) and scrapped the commitment to spend 0.7% of GDP on aid.

It's simplistic, drastic and brings no specific domestic effect which could be a rallying point for unrest.

It's also very easy to come up with rage bait stories of corruption and waste as justification, because in any organisation spending billions of dollars around the world you will always be to find something ridiculous that got funding, even though the proportion of the budget it represents is insignificant.

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unsnap_biceps02/20/2025

USAID was funding the StarLink deployment in Ukraine and was reexamining the deal[1], likely to try to negotiate a cheaper plan or to reduce the funding. My opinion is that it likely hit his ego a bit and it was a really sweet deal for StarLink, so losing out on it would suck.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-musk-starlink-probe-ukra...

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rl302/20/2025

>What's Elon's beef with USAID?

They were investigating Starlink:

https://oig.usaid.gov/node/6814

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danparsonson02/20/2025

An easy win with his rabid xenophobic fan base? A soft target to hurt his opponents and distract from other terrible things they're doing?

hnhg02/20/2025

Perhaps he wants the budget reallocated to something he has more financial interest in and control over? Or something like that for Thiel or others?

Terr_02/20/2025

They'll work their way up to anti-constitutional attacks on everything else if they get a chance, USAID is their starting point because it's a softer target in a few ways:

1. The people who'll suffer or die from their mal-management will generally be faraway foreigners, as opposed to people voters know.

2. More of the victims have a much more difficult time launching any kind of lawsuit in US courts.

3. It has a small veneer of Presidential-involvement-ness due to its proximity to diplomacy and foreign relations.

4. Like tariffs, being able to withhold aid allows Trump to commit extortion against other countries, much like how he was impeached for extorting Ukraine in his first term.

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jpcom02/20/2025

Scenario: You give someone $40B to feed people, and $1B actually feeds them while $39B vanishes into overhead and ideological reprogramming. Then they tell you they need more. If this is success, what does failure look like?

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jeffbee02/20/2025

He actually wants black Africans to die from AIDS.

intended02/20/2025

Collateral damage.

rsynnott02/20/2025

‘Libertarian ethos’. The guy who’s hoovering up personal data on behalf of a guy who just claimed to be king, that one? Like, how are we defining ‘libertarian’ here?

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mindslight02/20/2025

The only thing "libertarian" about Musk is his extreme interest in his own freedom - everyone else's be damned.

mbrumlow02/20/2025

My understanding is USAID was one of those organizations thet refused to pause spending when Trump lawfully asked all agencies to stop spending (it was a 90 day hold, not a outright denial, only congress can do that). Agencies that should adhere to trumps orders went to the top.

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throwawaymaths02/20/2025

what's with people not having beef with USAID? It's done so many crazy and bad things, for example:

USAID funded the hepatitis vaccination drive that the CIA used as a cover for espionage against the bin laden family, leading to polio outbreak in pakistan.

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/he-led-cia-bin-laden-and-...

Distaste for USAID in any other time would be bipartisan; the Clinton Administration floated shuttering it too. If you go to DC a lot of insiders will say, 'yeah, USAID's got to go'.

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Marazan02/20/2025

USAID is a bogeyman agency in far-right conspiracy circles.

Musk gets his world view from far-right conspiracists.

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Workaccount202/20/2025

It's more likely it came from Trump instead of Elon. Trump is an isolationist and has long complained about money being spent abroad rather than at home.

imperial_march02/20/2025

Less than 10% went to the needy. Most of the rest was either wasteful, political or a chain of NGOs performing kickbacks.

They were funding censorship campaigns on American citizens etc

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