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bootsmann02/20/2025

In clearance there is the concept of classification by compilation, which means that the clearance required for a piece of information can be higher than the one required by any single component that makes up that information. Being able to combine data across agencies makes it much more dangerous than keeping it separate and compartmentalized. Parallelism is a gigantic risk from a security perspective and ripe for abuse, especially given that DOGE itself has flaunted court orders trying to hold it accountable.

noja02/20/2025

The organisations were designed to be separate, and the systems design follows that.

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DonHopkins02/20/2025

So cooking the books and defrauding the citizens of the United States by exaggerating your progress by x1000 is crucial, you mean.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/upshot/doge-contracts-mus...

DOGE Claimed It Saved $8 Billion in One Contract. It Was Actually $8 Million.

The biggest single line item on the website of Elon Musk’s cost-cutting team included a big error.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/musk-s-doge-accuse...

Musk's DOGE Accused of 'Cooking the Books' After $8 Billion Savings Is Immediately Debunked

Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) falsely claimed an $8 billion cost savings from a canceled government contract, which was later revealed to be worth only $8 million.

https://x.com/electricfutures/status/1891898336208105676

Momentum Chaser @electricfutures

After several delays, @DOGE has finally posted its purported savings. Why did it take so long to create a simple webpage with a 1000-row table? Who knows! Let's dig in.

Headline number: $55B saved. They list the savings per nixed contract. This should be easy to verify then. [...]

guelo02/20/2025

I can't believe people believe that it's actually an "audit". Both Trump. and Elon are famous liars. The reality is they think they found a loophole to destroy the government without having to pass any laws by fiting as many people as they can and stopping payments randomly. It's all illegal and evil.

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junon02/20/2025

> It's just the default nature of systems that were created by different agencies, under different projects with different teams.

... Yes, because those teams by default do not simply get to share access, because of various very well understood security and privacy issues by doing so.

> Trump only granted DOGE a 12 month window to eliminate waste, and there's 400 federal agencies, so parallelism is crucial.

That's what he says, at least. Also, if their current blatant lying[0] about the """waste""" continues then I don't really see a point. It seems clear Musk and the Breakfast Club boys who are unilaterally changing government finances have no idea how a government contract works (or it's willful ignorance).

[0] https://x.com/electricfutures/status/1891898336208105676

jonahbenton02/20/2025

None of what you are saying is true.