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borgster02/20/202511 repliesview on HN

The President is the head of the executive branch. If _anyone_ in the executive branch has access to information, it feels like the presidents office should too.

Why is this hard to accept?


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2830428340923402/20/2025

He is not a monarch. The core principles of a well functioning democracy include that there are multiple, balanced powers and that none of the powers can overrule the other too much. It is cumbersome by design, because the other path leads to dictatorships.

That was the whole basis of your constitution.

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mrguyorama02/20/2025

If the CEO of my ecommerce company had easy, unmonitored access to all our data, we would fail industry audits and not be allowed to take credit card transactions. Sure, they have access if they really need it, but it's logged and monitored, and if you use it too much there will be questions.

It's a joke that any of you assholes are defending this. This does not pass any sniff test.

Stop making excuses.

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jonahbenton02/20/2025

Because it isn't the case. For good reason. So it isn't acceptable. Spend some educating yourself about security standards like FedRAMP and build a mental model of things that are or have been true, and the reasons they were made so.

mexicocitinluez02/20/2025

> If _anyone_ in the executive branch has access to information, it feels like the presidents office should too.

Are you an idiot? Can you point to the last time some foreigner was given access to American's personal data without any oversight?

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ndsipa_pomu02/20/2025

Because it's Musk following his own agenda and he apparently isn't the president

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jsight02/20/2025

> Why is this hard to accept?

Because a lot of people on the other side of the aisle from the current executive said it is bad.

And then they used ad hominem attacks and random slanders to try to shout down anyone who says otherwise.

It's unfortunate.

phendrenad202/20/2025

Most people in the US don't know that there are three branches of government, or if they do, they don't know WHY there are three, and even if they know that, they don't know what each branch's purpose is.

This is absolutely the job of the executive branch.

Perhaps DOGE should have been created by an act of congress, but in reality that's just a formality because the Republicans control Congress right now.

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insane_dreamer02/20/2025

So are you saying that the President's office could not get this information, or any information it needed, from government agencies before? Of course it could. doge going in and getting unfettered access to computer systems is not at all the same thing.

meijer02/20/2025

Ultimately it's about trust.

And why would you trust Trump or Musk?

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moduspol02/20/2025

Somehow Musk has surpassed Trump as a target. Cynically: I think it's because polls show Trump's approval rating at record highs, but Musk's isn't.

As a result, opponents are hyper-focused on Musk's involvement instead of Trump's.

imperial_march02/20/2025

You're right. Though the replies you get will sound like the end of the world.

You'll have to deal with people replying who have been driven literally insane by propaganda.

Money was sent to media agencies (e.g. 9mil Reuters) , to run this massive psyop.

You can't put a band aid on what has been done to them, and they can't critically think their way out of it.