Intent to drop in, make major changes, and pretend like they won't break anything is ill intent

We criticize engineers who drop into a code base and try to make changes without understanding. You can be forgiven for doing it a few times, but after that you're doing it intentionally. And if they hired engineers that didn't know this, that's incompetence at both levels.

Not only is this different code bases and IT products, it's across organizations and done very rapidly.

I am also not convinced that they don't simply have malicious intent most of the time.

> I don't think they have ill intent

Perhaps you could read their statements? DOGE communications are filled with ill intent, and their publicly stated goal, and the goal for which their supports seem to support them, is the destruction of the bureaucracy. That's ill intent.

That's before we look at their actions.

You mean misunderstanding the data, coming to the wrong conclusions, etc? Data science always has an issue with bullshit KPIs, shallow depth of statistics, and mostly mangling stuff keeping the manager happy. Still it's much better than not having any data analysis.

Whether it benefits from being in a single datalake idk. We really don't know how the operations are being done, we're mostly just reacting to news reports and outside guessing.

I'm assuming it will be basically how Palantir works in government health care and intelligence agencies where they aggregate multiple data sources from a bunch of old and new databases and have complex analytical tools on top.

I thank you for highlighting that the intent isn’t actually the problem. I do feel the opposite to you but I’m happy you can see the practice itself is not acceptable / is a bad practice.

Irrelevant. Even if they did nothing, the amount of exposure to the foreign intelligence services will devastate whatever we don’t footgun for a generation.

The intent is completely ill. DOGE is RAGE. Move fast and break everything before the courts can step in.

I think they have nothing but ill intent. Everything they've said and done so far just screams it.

He is being criminally reckless

Elon wants to build the X everything app and nuked the CFPB to do it and now has access to the fed system… I think he’s just biding his time. Aaaaand now that he has every American’s info he can dox anyone on Twitter. Makes you think twice about telling Elonia to go fuck himself on X … which is why I do it on Mastodon and BlueSky ;-)

Well when you have a white supremacist on the dodge team (confirmed by his comments on social media) working in this team, and you know white supremacists are very hateful... then I would assume there's obviously risk.

There is no reason to think they don't have ill intent.

You don’t think they have ill intent? Really? They have made it abundantly clear how much joy they get out of slashing services for everyday citizens, cutting jobs, and outright harassing federal workers. They are full of malicious intent for the people they view as the enemy.

> Even if DOGE is operating without any ill intent, and I don't think they have ill intent

Eh, they are going in like a bunch of bloodhounds smelling blood.

Musk killed USAID because he had a personal axe to grind.

The intent is to dismantle the federal government.

Their intentions are irrelevant. They are actively attacking the United States. They are enemy combatants and should be treated as such.

"and I don't think they have ill intent"

Elon Musk absolutely has ill intent or else DOGE wouldn't have all this access that they absolutely DO NOT NEED!

> I don't think they have ill intent

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Most of government agencies are errors themselves