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mandevillast Thursday at 6:22 PM2 repliesview on HN

235 CE Rome? The Western Roman Empire lasts another two centuries- Romulus Augustus is deposed in 476 CE. That's longer than the US Constitution has existed (ratified in 1788).


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jcranmerlast Thursday at 7:00 PM

In many respects the deposing of the last Western Roman Emperor is a bad date to use for the "Fall of Rome", given that the general socioeconomic trends of the time are fairly continuous for that period and contemporary sources didn't place much value on the shift of politics.

The Crisis of the Third Century, which starts in 235, is where the inflection point between "broadly stable" and "broadly negative" sets in, and the shocks both of the Crisis of the Third Century and the Plague of Justinian are each larger than the shock of the deposing of the last Western Roman Emperor.

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woriklast Thursday at 6:35 PM

> The Western Roman Empire lasts another two centuries

How long to you have to live, to see a return?

235 to 285 were tumultuous times, civil war and all that goes with it