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banku_broughamlast Tuesday at 10:06 PM5 repliesview on HN

Do black and white laser printers produce tracking dots?

Also, what is the meaning of this tracking, must every corner of our lives be tracked just on principle?


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rustcleanerlast Tuesday at 11:33 PM

I can't affirm knowledge of steganographic identifiers in B&W printers. I wanted to state I would be surprised if B&W printers did not embed tracking information. There's too much national security value in spamming origination details on everything. There is always, always a safety or security argument to do so, followed with "but what's the harm, you're not doing anything you shouldn't be doing... are you? "

doctobogganlast Tuesday at 10:11 PM

It's my understanding that the secret service requested (required?) that the printer manufacturers start adding the dots once the printers got good enough to easily recreate paper bills. Because they are primarily a tool for tracking counterfeiters, they are not needed with black a white printers and thus are not included.

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axuslast Wednesday at 2:57 PM

https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-d...

List hasn't been updated since 2017, was probably one guy making inferences from FOIA requests. We'll have to wait until the next time a Chinese university publishes some US government secrets.

jandreselast Tuesday at 11:08 PM

I think the idea is that nobody is going to be fooled by a B&W $20 bill, so they don't have to print the dots.

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tonyedgecombelast Wednesday at 10:35 AM

No yellow dots on monochrome printers.

Decades ago I worked on some software that would adjust the kerning on characters to hide information. As far as I know the project never went anywhere.