Matrix.org Will Migrate to MAS

Cool! I’ve recently consolidated all of my Google Chat and WhatsApp friends onto Matrix (via Element) because it’s E2EE. Gchat isn’t and I assume that Meta has a backdoor into WhatsApp conversations. So, those platforms can’t be trusted. Signal doesn’t have a web interface, so that’s a no-go for me. lol Telegram.

Matrix has been great for me and I recommend that everyone else use it!

I set firefox to clear cookies, also using cookies to "strict"

This somehow causes a huge pain to connect to mozilla's matrix instance, and I never understood why. This is a bit ironic since firefox has that feature to clear cookies.

I had to reset password, and do other weird things, I can't remember what exactly.

I hope this MAS thing fixes it.

I vaguely remember an old MSC or TWIM or something that described (the possibility of) a new authentication mechanism whereby I could set up either a dummy homeserver or something in .well_known that would allow me to use my own domain but without needing to use my own homeserver for the actual traffic. Sort of like an auth-only homeserver, if you will.

Is that part of MAS? Was that initiative ever fully-baked? Or am I just misremembering?

* Is all matrix.org's server-side for this open source, and able to be self-hosted?

* Do all the Matrix clients need to be modified to support this authentication method?

Love matrix. Improving the onboarding is a great step. I've seen less technical people have issues in that area until now.

Mostly a desktop/web user myself, hoping all that Element X work will trickle down to us.

> No more typing your password in every client you’d like to log in to.

So. . . how will we log in? This post is heavy on vague promises of greatness but light on concrete details of UX.

This sounds great for large and corporate servers, but a pain for small self-hosted ones. More configuration and external dependencies. Plus additional confusion for non-techy users on those smaller servers.

Congrats to Quentin and all the other contributors to this project.

Discord's ongoing enshittification may create a market opportunity for alternatives in the near future. I'd like to think that Matrix could be a beneficiary of that, but the common-case UX needs to be polished damn well when the time comes if they want to capitalize.

So Matrix is the new XMPP?

I quickly looked at the MSCs and seems “MAS” and associated MSCs enable OIDC/OAUTH authentication flows (basically integration with your favorite identity provider such as Google or Apple).

I was hoping for matrix homeserver to act as an identity provider as well to give us an alternative to big tech for “identity”.

I suppose I could just setup Ory or other open source IdP, but would have been nice to have an all in one package.

Does actually exist matrix servers for warez?

Anybody tried Simplex? - https://simplex.chat/