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lifestyleguru04/03/20252 repliesview on HN

European societies are extremely class based which is brutally visible in UK, France, Netherlands, even Germany. INSEAD and other MBAs see techies as washing machine repairmen.


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sam_lowry_04/03/2025

I think it is deeper than the theory of class struggle.

France rebuilt its educational system under Napoléon to teach science to bright kids from all backgrounds.

Fast-forward 200 years, it degraded into a system that teaches anachronistic humanities to smart and docile kids of upper middle classes.

P.S. For non-French, I am talking about the system of Grandes écoles [1]

[1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_%C3%A9cole

mcv04/03/2025

Netherland is actually extremely egalitarian. Managers are often just one of the team, you address everybody informally, we're all equals, etc. Except in pay. And especially in larger organizations. Managers and people on track to management are seen as the shit. Programmers are paid fairly well compared to the average job, but even if you're single-handedly pulling an important project, you're never going to make the same as people who push numbers, papers and money.

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