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teleforceyesterday at 3:41 PM0 repliesview on HN

> thanks to the carefully, or at least consciously designed formal symbolisms that we owe to people like Vieta, Descartes, Leibniz, and (later) Boole.

Please check this talk on the contributions of these mentioned people for the complementary form of deterministic AI (machine intelligence) namely logic, optimization and constraint programming in a seminal lecture by John Hooker [1].

I have got the feeling that if we combine the stochastic nature of LLM based NLP with the deterministic nature of feature structure trchnique based NLP (e.g. CUE), guided by logic, optimization and constraint programming we probably can solve intuitive automation or at least perform proper automation (or automatic computing as Dijkstra put it).

Apparently Yann LeCun also recently proposing optimization based AI namely inference through optimization, or objective driven AI in addition to data-driven AI [2].

Fun facts, you can see Donald Knuth asking questions towards the end of the JH's lecture presentation.

[1] Logic, Optimization, and Constraint Programming: A Fruitful Collaboration - John Hooker - CMU (2023) [video]:

https://www.youtube.com/live/TknN8fCQvRk

[2] Mathematical Obstacles on the Way to Human-Level AI - Yann LeCun - Meta - AMS Josiah Willard Gibbs Lecture at the 2025 Joint Mathematics Meetings (2025) [video]:

https://youtu.be/ETZfkkv6V7Y