alt Hacker News>I really appreciate you following up with a cordial tone, it's so nice to have a respectful conversation with a stranger on the internet in this day and age.
This feels sarcastic?, but I'll assume it isn't for the sake of the conversation and since that's easy to misinterpret over text
> In general, these jobs can mostly be performed without a college degree.
> Contrast that with service jobs that can broadly be performed with a college degree:
Are these not apple to oranges comparisons? "can mostly be performed without a college degree" and "service jobs that can broadly be performed with a college degree" seem like different buckets.
On top of that "can broadly be performed with a college degree" means nothing. You could describe people in comas as being able to "broadly perform a coma with a college degree". Especially when retail is being pulled up as one of the major buckets.
>So, on average, manufacturing and extraction jobs not requiring a college education pay 40% more than service jobs of the same requirements.
Yea again, this is disingenuous. You're now comparing "manufacturing and extraction jobs not requiring a college education" with "service jobs of the same requirements" but mere sentences ago you were bringing up data on manufacturing jobs that _did not_ need a college degree, and numbers on service jobs that _did_ need a college degree.
I know believe the numbers in this link aren't matching up with this conversation because they are logically inconsistent
> This feels sarcastic?
Wasn’t my intention but maybe I was laying it on thick.
I misspoke, the service job categories I referenced can be done withOUT a college degree, that probably should have been obvious because it included the categories “retail” (which, as you noted, can be done in a coma) and “hospitality” - but wouldn’t it underscore my point even more if you could make more money in manufacturing without a college degree than the largest sectors of service, with a college degree?
I didn’t include the service categories that require substantial amounts of post-secondary education such as “healthcare” and “financial.”
Anyways now you’re calling me disingenuous so I’m going to disengage. I hope despite a small mistake on my part, you can still see my point. Have a nice life!