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josephglast Wednesday at 6:03 AM4 repliesview on HN

> Hell would freeze over before Apple conformed and contributed to an existing open standard.

Better get some blankets because Apple has made significant contributions to many open standards - for example, USB-C. And, back in the day, OpenGL.

Its a mistake to think of a large company like apple as if it were a person, with their own goals and ideas. Apple is just too big for that. I mean, they have 164,000 staff. Thats big enough that "small" business units will still have thousands of people. So each area will end up creating its own culture, and have its own way of doing things.

The graphics division - these days - seems very intent on doing their own thing. But that doesn't tell us much about the rest of apple. 164 000 people is a lot of people. That's an awful lot of different opinions about open standards.


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andsoitislast Wednesday at 6:11 AM

> The graphics division - these days - seems very intent on doing their own thing.

Apple is a top-down hierarchy with ruthless business strategy. Not a value judgment; merely a fact to keep in mind when entering a business relationship with Apple.

Mike Rockwell, serves as the Vice President of the Vision Products Group. Rockwell has been instrumental in spearheading the Vision Pro project and the underlying visionOS platform. His leadership has been pivotal in advancing Apple’s spatial computing initiatives.

To think he and his team have not made intentional choices to support/advance or undermine OpenXR would be naïve in my view.

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bigyabailast Wednesday at 6:09 AM

I think people are (rightfully) upset at the business-oriented decisions that limit MacOS as a platform, prevent competition on iOS and demand annual tithes from their developers like they're peons tilling land for coin. These are fair criticisms, prosecuted in a few courts even, and well within the realm of reasonable change.

Apple makes great things for their users when they collaborate with the industry. That's why we're concerned when they abandon standards and demand convergence on suspicious centralized cloud crap.

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DecentShoeslast Wednesday at 7:53 AM

>Apple has made significant contributions to many open standards - for example, USB-C.

And then refused to use it until the EU forced them

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charcircuitlast Wednesday at 8:11 AM

USB-C is not a Khronos standard.