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janalsncm04/23/20252 repliesview on HN

That is a much darker tone that I’ve ever thought of that passage in.

On a slightly related note, I think a lot of people today don’t realize when Jesus talked about the “Kingdom of Heaven” many of his audience heard that as a real, physical kingdom which would overthrow Rome. I believe Jesus also believed this, which to me is why Jesus’ dying words (“My God, why have you forsaken me?”) is quite literally an admission that his political project had failed.


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lurk204/23/2025

> I believe Jesus also believed this

Jesus predicted his death several times, most explicitly in Matthew 20:17–19.

> Now Jesus, going up to Jerusalem, took the twelve disciples aside on the road and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death, and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to crucify. And the third day He will rise again.”

- Matthew 20:17–19

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selimthegrim04/24/2025

I’m assuming you read The Passover Plot?

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