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3np04/23/20252 repliesview on HN

> What Could Shopify Have Done Differently?

For completion I think "cease to insecurely extract, aggregate and abuse all that user data" should also be mentioned as an alternative to the different ways they could skirt regulation.


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clucas04/23/2025

You’re misunderstanding the question - he’s asking how Shopify could avoid jurisdiction, not avoid this suit. Jurisdiction is a threshold question before you get to the merits… maybe Shopify did the bad thing, maybe they didn’t, but before we decide that, we need to determine if California law even applies to Shopify.

The author seems to think that there should be some way for Shopify to avoid jurisdiction while still offering services in California, but I don’t really understand why he thinks so.

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johnea04/23/2025

I was going to quote, and respond in almost the exact same way.

The only change I would make to your suggestion would be to remove the word "insecurely".

They shouldn't extract or aggregate user data in any fashion whatsoever.