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kryptiskt04/24/2025

The Magic Circle is selling itself as "the world's premier magic society", complete with titles. That's not a harmless men's club, excluding women from that makes it harder for them to make it as professional magicians.

As for the immorality of deceiving a bunch of professional magicians, spare me. Literally no harm was done.

koonsolo04/24/2025

As long as the other sex also has the same opportunity to join a similar group, I agree.

But when there is no proper alternative for a man or woman to join a similar club, it's more about the exclusion of people with the same interest but happen to have the wrong sex.

mcphage04/24/2025

> She lied her way in in the first place.

“Illusion, Michael. A trick is something that a whore does for money.”

scotty7904/24/2025

You could say the same about the race but it sounds kind of racist.

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anal_reactor04/24/2025

You can't have diversity without exclusion. In order to create a space that has some vibe different from the lowest common denominator of general public, you need to exclude everyone except some groups. Case in point: when I'm organizing a house party, I avoid inviting people who would ruin the vibe, even if they're otherwise fine people.

As much as some people hate to admit this, the recent cultural shift overcorrected towards feminism and non-white races. I'm not saying that Andrew Tate will become mainstream, but I guess in near future it will become acceptable again to shamelessly be a white straight man.

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