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pavlov04/27/20255 repliesview on HN

I think you might want to elaborate on why this stack is good.

Right now it’s summarized as “typesafe fullstack monorepo”… But that’s so dense, it’s practically just three buzzwords together. A more realistic description of the pros and cons would be welcome.

I’ve never heard of Hono, and I’d personally need a lot more convincing to pick an unknown framework for a new app.


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hombre_fatal04/27/2025

Koa was next gen Express when TJ Hollowaychuk made it. Used first class promises to have real middleware like “response = await next()”

Hono is basically next gen Koa: zero dependencies and made to work in additional contexts like in CloudFlare Workers.

- Express deps: https://npmgraph.js.org/?q=express (lol)

- Hono deps: https://npmgraph.js.org/?q=hono

Node web servers are all so similar (you write ~identical code no matter which one you use) that tie-breaking on a dep diff this big is reasonable.

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DrStartup04/28/2025

Not a dev, but I know what these are. Maybe the post was meant for people that know. Bun / deno new nodejs. Hono new koa new express. Vite new webpack. React still React but most popular.

stevedsimkins04/27/2025

I appreciate the feedback! This stack does kinda assume you already know what Hono is but I can definitely flesh it out a bit more, and perhaps show some code to demonstrate it.

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liveafterlove04/27/2025

Hono is pretty good js a runtime agnostic router. On their site:

Works on Cloudflare, Fastly, Deno, Bun, AWS, or Node.js. The same code runs on all platforms.

https://hono.dev

How does compare to ultrajs? Or just use hono client side jsx, its pretty much like react already.

Philpax04/27/2025

Agreed - I have no idea what this stack is good for, or how it competes against other full-stack efforts. Would love to know more!

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