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gruezyesterday at 2:09 PM2 repliesview on HN

>your data is more valuable if marketers can assign your real name to your data. or aggregating all data about you, phone number helps with that.

This is mostly a red herring because most of the places that require SMS TOP already have your full name/address (eg. financial institutions, healthcare providers) or are in a position to intercept communications that they can infer that information (eg. google). If apps/sites like tiktok wants my phone number for 2fa, they can fuck off, or get a burner number.


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globieyesterday at 2:24 PM

I don't understand how this post stacks up against the myriad of communications apps that not only require phone verification when creating a new profile (and maybe SMS2FA), but put great effort into blocking as many VoIP/burner/prepaid numbers as possible.

"Most"? maybe "a troubling few"?

Phone verification is absolutely a widely exploited data mining opportunity, I don't see how it's a red herring at all. It's one of the worst surveillance mechanisms we live with today, only partially waved away with the 2000's concept of burner numbers.

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Calwestjobsyesterday at 2:20 PM

yes marketer gets your name from bank etc, you can not lie there about your name. and everywhere else, your data is connected just your number.

same problem with signal messenger or facebook messenger building databases of numbers and contacts. neo4j clone from palantir.