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quantumHazeryesterday at 5:08 PM3 repliesview on HN

Cool, but don't get me wrong, isn't this essentially similar to Google's Co-Scientist, where multiple models are in a loop, passing context back and forth validating things? At its core, it's still a system of LLMs, which is impressive in execution but not fundamentally new.

LLMs are undoubtedly useful at tasks like code "optimisation" and detecting patterns or redundancies that humans might overlook, but this announcement feels like another polished, hypey blog post from Google.

What's also becoming increasingly confusing is their use of the "Alpha" branding. Originally, it was for breakthroughs like AlphaGo or AlphaFold, where there was a clear leap in performance and methodology. Now it's being applied to systems that, while sophisticated, don't really rise to the same level of impact.

edit: I missed the evaluator in my description, but an evaluation method is applied also in Co-Scientist:

"The AI co-scientist leverages test-time compute scaling to iteratively reason, evolve, and improve outputs. Key reasoning steps include self-play–based scientific debate for novel hypothesis generation, ranking tournaments for hypothesis comparison, and an "evolution" process for quality improvement."[0]

[0]: https://research.google/blog/accelerating-scientific-breakth...


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chriskananyesterday at 9:02 PM

They address this in the AlphaEvolve paper:

"While AI Co-Scientist represents scientific hypotheses and their evaluation criteria in natural language, AlphaEvolve focuses on evolving code, and directs evolution using programmatic evaluation functions. This choice enables us to substantially sidestep LLM hallucinations, which allows AlphaEvolve to carry on the evolution process for a large number of time steps."

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Workaccount2yesterday at 5:26 PM

Few things are more Google than having two distinct teams building two distinct products that are essentially the same thing.

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mistrial9yesterday at 5:09 PM

pardon "Google's Co-Scientist" ? There are multiple projects called that?

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