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guywithahatlast Wednesday at 11:46 PM4 repliesview on HN

I think the real remarkable part of all this is how bad city buses are. Everyone knows about them, we’ve all been forced to take one, but cities are so consistently bad at managing them it’s not an option for most people, even if they live near a stop.


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mjevansyesterday at 1:02 AM

It's a problem that intersects with the national issues related to... under-served and poorly integrated people in the population.

National policy needs to do much better on an array of issues that contribute to 'poor public transit experiences'.

Issues like "mentally unbalanced passengers", inebriated, smelly (includes smokers!), overcrowded busses. I know they are rigged for standing room, but that should NOT be the expectation for a ride longer than 10 min outside of extreme crunches like sports games overflow!

Aside from running the correct busses to the places people need to get from and to:

I want the modern version of Star Trek utopia.

* American Dream (home ownership, vaguely near the jobs / family) within reach.

* Jobs that are a good match for worker's skills / family time needs.

* 'Child Care Assistance' - more than just schools, facilities that can help take care of children while parents work, are unexpectedly sick, etc. Daycare+++

* 'Employment Assistance' - connect workers with the best jobs that want them

* Diversion programs to help people with 'issues' that prevent access to jobs overcome VARIOUS issues such as: lack of stable food, lack of stable housing, supplies to keep clean and healthy.

* Recognizing people that aren't helped by current medical technology and social programs and assisting them with possibly contributing in unconventional ways, or simply being taken care of properly if they are cursed very beyond medical help.

Every last bit of that is more than just fixing a transit system.

Society as a whole system needs an approach that remedies and modifies the entire problem from all angles. Including the ones that change where people need to go for jobs and housing.

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klooneyyesterday at 1:03 PM

They're cheap, if spending an extra two hours a day on the bus is cheap.

Spivakyesterday at 4:24 AM

It really is impressive at how terrible they manage to make the time/location coverage. My most recent trip I took because I was bored and thought it would be novel to see if my city's buses have improved is a 10 minute drive by car. Bus stop is right by the start and end. And they get for free the wait time until the first bus. It took two hours and three buses to get me to my destination. I was the only rider on every leg so it was actually pretty novel to get a private bus.

socoyesterday at 8:28 AM

Maybe pointing out the obvious but I'd rephrase that to "how bad US city buses are". And I believe it's not only a matter of regulations, but following a whole culture who in general is not exactly in favor of doing anything in collective - or putting the "public" in "public transport". So nice discussion, but to make it happen sustainably, it will take much more than some council meetings.