alt Hacker News> Their argument rests on computation being a theory ("simulation") while agency/cognition being real ("processes"). Put that way, I don't buy the distinction.
One is wholly internal to the entity under discussion, while the other isn't.
> Their argument rests on computation being a theory ("simulation") while agency/cognition being real ("processes"). Put that way, I don't buy the distinction.
One is wholly internal to the entity under discussion, while the other isn't.
The extended Church-Turing thesis is specifically about the relationship between theoretical TMs and the physical universe. So these paper authors are just begging the question—they disagree with the thesis. But as I say in a) and b) above, (I believe that) they make for poor arguments.