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In even more practical terms, garbage is not shipped to other countries. That's not something that happens.

Some recycling is bought by other countries, but they buy it to use it, not to stack it into artificial mountains.


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me_bx06/04/2025

> Some recycling is bought by other countries, but they buy it to use it, not to stack it into artificial mountains.

Any source for this?

A lot of plastic waste exports destination are in South-East Asia [0]. In the EU, with all its modern infrastructure and capacities, only 41% of the plastic packaging waste is being recycled [1]. So which portion of the imported plastic waste can we assume will be recycled in Malaysia?

Documentaries [2] and [3] support the opposite thesis as yours, stating that imported plastic waste is imply dumped.

The OECD report on Monitoring trade in plastic waste and scrap [3] indicates that even the ban on hazardous waste (Basel Ban) exports is not having any effect.

  [0]: Share of global plastic waste imports, 2021 - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-plastic-waste-imports?time=2021
  [1]:  41% of plastic packaging waste recycled in 2022  - https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20241024-3
  [2]: Your plastic waste might be traded by criminals - https://youtu.be/tID-AChSg7o?t=246
  [3]: UK plastic for “recycling” dumped and burned in Turkey - BBC News - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw6KR2vj_bc
  [4]: https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/support-materials/2024/04/monitoring-trade-in-plastic-waste-and-scrap_0c401097/Monitoring%20trade%20in%20plastic%20waste%20and%20scrap%20PH.pdf
DocTomoe06/04/2025

There have been several cases in which countries were paid to take plastic trash for "recycling" - and recycling became "let's just dump it somewhere":

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/frontpage/2024/March/explainer_-...