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abxyz06/16/20253 repliesview on HN

Yes, it is. The courts are flawed, the courts get things wrong all the time. Many innocent people are found guilty. If we must apply the legal standard to internet comments, must we condemn people we believe to be innocent? The legal standards exist for the system, not for people. Saying that the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" should apply outside of the legal system is lazy and avoiding making decisions for yourself about how you treat people.

People proven guilty are not necessarily guilty. People proven not guilty are not necessarily innocent. The legal standard exists because a system needs standards.


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qualeed06/16/2025

>The courts are flawed, the courts get things wrong all the time.

Is your assertion that random internet commenters get it right more than the courts...?

>"innocent until proven guilty" should apply outside of the legal system is lazy

How is guilty until proven innocent less "lazy"?

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UncleEntity06/16/2025

> Saying that the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" should apply outside of the legal system is lazy and avoiding making decisions for yourself about how you treat people.

Then how do you explain laws against slander and libel?

You can't label someone guilty of a crime just because you feel it to be true.

tonyhart706/16/2025

"People proven guilty are not necessarily guilty. People proven not guilty are not necessarily innocent. The legal standard exists because a system needs standards."

so you saying that court is useless because its not perfet???? its easy to complaint about something but give NOTHING to improve it

You would not do better than people in charge because EASY to say something is wrong but you dont have ANSWER that improve this current standards

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