alt Hacker Newsevery time your shell takes 100ms to render git status that you didn’t even need, you're paying invisible tax on flow. terminals should be reactive memory tools, not passive decoration. we optimize for code runtime but not for our own typing latency
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we optimize for code runtime but not for our own typing latency
100ms optimization is a lot different for a CPU or a human brain. I'm not defending having the entire system log dumped out on every prompt but a few amenities are worth a few milliseconds computation time for a human.
Besides, I don't see how, for example , having your prompt take those 100ms to print a git branch or status breaks your "flow" yet having to type out the commands yourself and taking longer doing it doesn't.
Its a balance between bloat and and usability like so many other things, but, to me at least, being on either extreme of bloat or extreme-minimalism seems counterproductive.
The delay is certainly frustrating. I use a patched version of kitty terminal that moves starship prompt to the bottom of the window, similar to vim and emacs. Since modeline updates are asynchronous, the shell prompt is very snappy even in big git repos. The downside is that you have to patch kitty and I never bothered to test my personal pet project on anything else than Linux.
Could prompt tools like this use TUI-style features to edit the displayed prompt after releasing it back to the user? So if kubectl, git, or aws cli takes 200ms to finish it doesn't matter, the data from the output of these commands will appear a few moments after the prompt has been released to the user, so the user doesn't feel like they're waiting for the prompt to be ready.
counter-point: having to constantly track git status in your head, and needing to type commands to remind yourself, is a far bigger distraction. Optimize to avoid context switching, not for a few ms latency.
FWIW, I switched from zsh default to starship and didn't notice any perceptible difference. But I certainly notice when I mess up my git commits!
> we optimize for code runtime but not for our own typing latency
Don't the layers of frameworks mean that the opposite is true.
If you're used to, say, VS Code or the GitHub online editor where the lag between pressing a key on the keyboard and a corresponding character appearing on the screen can be on the order of tens of thousands of milliseconds, then 100 ms will seem like lightning.
Starship is very fast, taking only a couple of milliseconds to gather the data (and you can easily configure it to minimise what it'll spend time gathering). It's night and day compared to other ones I've tried, where the hundred millisecond-ish delays annoyed me.