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al_borlandtoday at 1:36 AM3 repliesview on HN

Was anyone asking for their network to be able to sense their breathing rate? What does this enable that actually improves people’s lives?

This is the kind of stuff that pushes me to pull a Ron Swanson and throw my technology in the dumpster.


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jeroenhdtoday at 5:18 AM

The network already could. The standardisation is just making the feature available without hiding it.

The core of the sensing technology is about improving MU-MIMO + OFDM + all the other speed tricks. Human bodies interfere in predictable ways so you need the tech to steer around that. As a side effect, you get detection capabilities for free.

In such a setup, your laptop and router already know where you are. The question is whether or not to offer it to you so you can use that information for things like home automation. Had they not made this part of the protocol, the privacy risks were just as bad, you just wouldn't be aware of them.

transputetoday at 2:43 AM

Similar technology has been quietly in use for a while, with falling cost, e.g. "Inside a $1 radar motion sensor", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40834349 (100 comments).

Commercialization gives consumers and regulators the opportunity to express their opinions on the sudden and unsolicited transparency of the walls, floors and ceilings of their homes and businesses.

pickledoystertoday at 7:55 AM

The only use case I've heard of is elderly care, where no movement might mean a person has fallen and needs help. An edge, strictly opt-in scenario that would be addressed more effectively (movement+HR+body temp) by relatively cheap wearables.