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citizenpaullast Tuesday at 4:07 PM1 replyview on HN

>no incentive to represent the civically disengaged

THATS LITERALLY THE JOB.

You are literally arguing that if I got a job at a bank and started stealing the deposits it would be ok because I had no incentive not to.

Actually now that I think about it you are also reinforcing my point. Sodom and Gomorrah. You yourself have such poor moral compass that when another person acts maliciously you give them a pass because of course that's what they would do. Because its also what you would do because you also have no moral compass.

The city could not be saved. Not because "god" destroyed it but because the people themselves destroyed it. No good people existed there.


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JumpCrisscrosslast Tuesday at 4:42 PM

> THATS LITERALLY THE JOB

No, it’s not and it never has been. (Civic engagement and persistent watchfulness on liberties is a universal drumbeat across democracies.)

The courts et al are tasked with protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority, or in this case, the engaged. Making the judiciary coëqual was our founders’ attempt at taming this tendency. But nothing knowledgeable ever written has suggested our republic should run on autopilot.

> when another person acts maliciously you give them a pass

I’m not giving them a pass, I’m saying the system is acting as designed. If people don’t give a shit about privacy but give a LOT of shits about abortion and cost of living, the elected should focus on the latter. This isn’t moral corruption, it’s responding to expressed preference. (Also, Comcast using Wi-fi to aid law enforcement is far from a black-and-white moral issue. It’s a political and legal question with multiple equilibria when it comes to right answers.)

There is being righteous and there is being right. The bulk of advocates for digital privacy enjoy the former and almost take their failure at the latter as further evidence of their righteousness. (It’s a lot easier to wax lyrical about Sodom and Gomorrah than pick up the phone once a month and attend meetings.)

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