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roenxiyesterday at 2:13 AM5 repliesview on HN

It is a pretty good article, but it slightly misunderstands status. Being the first person on the dance floor is closer to a high status move, because it is taking a leardership position and suggesting what the group should do next. People avoid doing that because they want to copy someone of a higher status than themselves, not because they fear low status. The mechanism nature uses to implement that low status behaviour is nervousness which is often described as a fear of "standing out", "looking silly" or similar terms, but those are low status concerns. High status people don't really suffer from looking silly, they define what looking silly is by being what they don't do.


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ants_everywhereyesterday at 2:41 AM

I don't know. There's nothing high status about being the only person on the dance floor for 3 songs in a row.

> High status people don't really suffer from looking silly, they define what looking silly is by being what they don't do.

I also don't know about this. Certain high status people are obsessively concerned with whether they look silly. They used to routinely fight to the death over it.

I've been reading the Book of the Courtier this week, and it's clear that even back in the 16th century high status people were very concerned about whether they looked silly, or even whether their dances looked silly.

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DavidPiperyesterday at 6:15 AM

When I think of status the way Keith Johnstone describes it in "Impro", being the first one out on the dancefloor is a completely neutral action.

_How_ you do it, and your own physical reaction to those around you while doing it, will reveal whether you're acting from a place of high or low status.

twelve40yesterday at 8:02 AM

No, it gets it just right. The implicit assumption in this example is that the first person on the dance floor is _not_ quickly joined by hundreds of other people but continues to be awkwardly by themselves for a while, possibly then embarrassing themself by completely failing to attract anyone.

brabelyesterday at 8:21 AM

What a miserable world people commenting here seem to live in where going out to dance is a sort of status challenging activity?! When I was younger and frequented dance floors, everyone immediately started dancing as soon as the music started playing, wasn’t that the point of being there?? Never even occurred to me to fear being the only one dancing. And if did happen I would be wondering what kind of people come here and just stands there.

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danarisyesterday at 2:51 AM

That only works if the person is already seen as high status—ie, if the other people at the dance are already primed to look at them going out on the dance floor and say "oh, they're dancing; that means it's time to dance."

If the person going out on the dance floor is an unknown, then going out there is a status risk. If it pays off, they can become seen as high status: a trailblazer, a trendsetter. If it doesn't, they become (at least for the time being) low status: pathetic, cringe.

Having visible confidence and charisma can help make the gamble more likely to pay off, but it's not a guarantee.

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