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darkoob12yesterday at 5:49 AM9 repliesview on HN

I am not a gamer and don't why AMD GPUs aren't good enough. It's weird since both Xbox and PlayStation are using AMD GPUs.

I guess there games that you can only play on PC with Nvidia graphics. That begs the question why someone create a game and ignore large console market.


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datagramyesterday at 7:13 AM

AMD cards are fine from a raw performance perspective, but Nvidia has built themselves a moat of software/hardware features like ray-tracing, video encoding, CUDA, DLSS, etc where AMD's equivalents have simply not been as good.

With their current generation of cards AMD has caught up on all of those things except CUDA, and Intel is in a similar spot now that they've had time to improve their drivers, so it's pretty easy now to buy a non-Nvidia card without feeling like you're giving anything up.

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npteljesyesterday at 8:44 AM

What I experienced is that AI is a nightmare on AMD in Linux. There is a myriad of custom things that one needs to do, and even that just breaks after a while. Happened so much on my current setup (6600 XT) that I don't bother with local AI anymore, because the time investment is just not worth it.

It's not that I can't live like this, I still have the same card, but if I were looking to do anything AI locally with a new card, for sure it wouldn't be an AMD one.

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PoshBreezeyesterday at 5:53 AM

Nvidia is the high end, AMD is the mid segment and Intel is the low end. In reality I am playing 4K on HellDivers with 50-60FPS on a 6800XT.

Traditionally the NVIDIA drivers have been more stable on Windows than the AMD drivers. I choose an AMD card because I wanted a hassle free experience on Linux (well as much as you can).

Cthulhu_yesterday at 2:10 PM

AMD GPU's are fine, but nvidia's marketing (overt and covert / word-of-mouth) is better. "RTX On" is a meme where people get convinced the graphics are over 9000x "better"; it's a meaningless marketing expression but a naive generation of fairly new PC gamers are eating it up.

And... they don't need to. Most of the most played video games on PC are all years old [0]. They're online multiplayer games that are optimized for average spec computers (and mobile) to capture as big a chunk of the potential market as possible.

It's flexing for clout, nothing else to it. And yet, I can't say it's anything new, people have been bragging, boasting and comparing their graphics cards for decades.

[0] https://activeplayer.io/top-15-most-popular-pc-games-of-2022...

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AngryDatayesterday at 11:12 PM

I am a gamer, and I don't understand why everyone flocks to Nvidia either unless they are buying the newest flagship card. Maybe just because "the best card" is from Nvidia so many assume Nvidia must be the best for everyone? For multiple generations ive gotten better card for my dollar at any "mid-tier" gaming level with AMD, and have had zero complaints.

wredcollyesterday at 4:04 PM

A significant part of the vocal "gamers" is about being "the best" which translates into gpu benchmarking.

You don't get headlines and hype by being an affordable way to play games at a decent frame rate, you achieve it by setting New Fps Records.

senkoyesterday at 6:49 AM

> AMD GPUs aren't good enough.

Software. AMD has traditionally been really bad at their drivers. (They also missed the AI train and are trying to catch up).

I use Linux and have learned not to touch AMD GPUs (and to a lesser extent CPUs due to chipset quality/support) a long time ago. Even if they are better now, (I feel) Intel integrated (if no special GPU perf needed) or NVidia are less risky choices.

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Bratmontoday at 9:53 AM

AMD GPUs are 5 years behind Nvidia. But that logically means that if you thought Nvidia graphics looked fine in 2020, you'll think AMD graphics look fine now.

ErrorNoBrainyesterday at 5:58 AM

ive used an amd card for a couple years

its been great. flawless in fact.

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