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anovikovlast Saturday at 6:04 AM4 repliesview on HN

So it means that indirectly, developers' salaries are not a taxable income in Canada if they are working on R&D? Meaning, they do pay taxes on their income, but their employer gets those taxes back, so if tax is 60%, the employer could pay 250% of what they'd pay otherwise, get 150% back, then the developer pays 150% of taxes, and gets 100%, so in effect the salary is tax-free. Is that what you meant to say?

If so, it sounds almost too good to be true. Why aren't all startups in Canada?


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Canadalast Saturday at 6:24 AM

Yeah, I never thought of it that way. Your plan sounds great, but, in practice how it works is you get paid about half of what you would get in the US. Currently less than half due to the unusual currency exchange rates.

nickfflast Saturday at 6:08 AM

There are many limits on SR&ED, and the reporting/auditing process is burdensome. Canada also suffers from a variety of other inconveniences, mostly related to its dependence on resource extraction-related industries.

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throwawaysleeplast Saturday at 6:10 AM

Canada's lack of startups is heavily cultural.

We adopt new products less. We are far more risk averse about purchasing goods or services from startups, far more risk averse about funding them (founders often give personal guarantees to get the investment), value the equity startups offer at far less, etc. Government is far more fussy about accountability with that refundable R&D money, so lots of time is spent filling out paperwork and hiring consultants to do it.

Here is a video that explains a lot about Canadian purchasing:

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.4596459

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__turbobrew__last Saturday at 3:12 PM

There is lots of paperwork for SR&ED, enough so that companies opt not to do it.

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