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crims0nyesterday at 1:58 PM32 repliesview on HN

Tangentially related, is this book worth the hype? I don't read a lot of genre fiction, but don't like to miss out on the exceptional (just finished and loved Flowers for Algernon, as an example).

Edit: Sounds like an enjoyable, low commitment book. Will give it a try, thanks for the feedback.


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twotwotwotoday at 1:35 AM

I give credit to Andy Weir for knowing what The Martian did well--setting up a bunch of technical problems as load-bearing elements of a plot--and going and executing that same general plan, but with new particulars and bigger and with fun new ideas. The made-up sciencey stuff feels infused with principled ideas about how new things we haven't discovered might work, rather than designed for their role in the story alone. And he's willing to write an ending!

There are things he does not stand out at, but those don't take you out of the story. As people work through things on Earth a lot of the nontechnical parts are, I guess, simplified, but I can't care that much; I didn't pick this up wanting a bureaucratic or psychological thriller. And he (or he + early readers and editors) usually make sure to quickly and efficiently get you through all of that to the next fun part.

protocolturetoday at 12:11 AM

In my opinion Weir is learning to write in full public view. I tolerate it largely because he is definitely getting better. But its not everyones cup of tea.

The scenario is definitely contrived to introduce interplanetary travel to a near future setting.

The amnesia parts of of the book are not very coherently written.

However what Weir IMHO excels at is having fun self insert characters solving problems. When you get past the cruft and get to the "This is a book about troubleshooting in space" sections, it takes off.

pjeremyesterday at 2:49 PM

The hype, absolutely not. I found the writing to be very poor. However I enjoyed it. The story is refreshing and straightforward.

To be fair, I read it months before the movie announcement and it really felt like reading a movie plot. If you prefer, I thought that the author had a great story idea but cared very little about writing a book, like he already knew this was for Hollywood.

I think with good production it’s going to be a better movie than the book.

Never read the Martian but I was told it was the same thing.

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loteckyesterday at 2:09 PM

Almost nothing is worth the hype but the book is an enjoyable page turner if you like space adventures and speculative science. Audiobook also got some extra attention, I'd go with that if you like audiobooks.

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op00toyesterday at 11:35 PM

It’s pretty good. Definitely got better at the end in my opinion. I am interested to see how it will translate to film.

Check out Dragon’s Egg while you’re at it. It’s like Project Hail Mary’s much nerdier older brother.

konsalexeeyesterday at 2:14 PM

It was really enjoyable to read. And I also do not read a lot of fiction, with my last book being the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy series.

My verdict is that Project Hail Mary was way much more engaging in terms of story-telling. The concepts were cool, and tbh I look forward for the movie and see if the adaptation will be nice

citizenpaultoday at 3:49 AM

Its OK but if you want something the "Children of time" series byAdrian Tchaikovsky has a similarish story arch and is much better and deeper story.

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sbelskieyesterday at 2:17 PM

If you don't read/like much genre fiction, I would say probably no. The pacing is well done and I genuinely find story compelling, but the writing while solid-ish is not exactly of high literary quality.

Additionally, in terms of genre I actually find Weir's books to be more like detective novels than sci-fi, though obviously lots of sci-fi elements in them.

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_quayesterday at 2:33 PM

It's a fun read but, just like his other books, very one-dimensional characters with no depth. Not really remarkable literature, more of a bunch of Wikipedia articles strung together.

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joweayesterday at 2:11 PM

I liked the audiobook a lot, but I'm a SF aficionado, so my opinion may not be relevant. The other comment may be correct about the "serious literary critic" opinion.

lucb1eyesterday at 3:28 PM

I enjoyed The Martian even more, but perhaps only because I wasn't prepared for how good it was. I was bored in Stockholm airport and thought "haven't I heard of this book oh HN?", flipped a few pages, and decided to buy it. It quickly became clear that I had a new favorite book (and it still is)

PHM, from the same author, I was very much expecting to be very good to amazing. It delivered, but it's a different feeling when you see it coming

sho_hnyesterday at 10:24 PM

It's Space MacGyver, and does that very well.

ItsHarperyesterday at 2:11 PM

Admittedly I am a sci-fi fan, but I loved it so much. The science fiction aspects are not the best part.

Don't watch the trailer for the movie though, it's very spoiler-heavy.

SeanAndersontoday at 1:40 AM

The audiobook version is probably my favorite listen to date.

dwood_devtoday at 4:11 AM

I enjoyed it a lot, especially the audio book. I'm not sure how much I would have enjoyed the print version. I can't say much more without spoilers, but the sound effects really make the drama come to life.

izacusyesterday at 3:00 PM

If you can handle the terrible Gary Sue main character, it's a fun summer read.

zackifytoday at 1:43 AM

It’s an awesome book and I’ve been dying to see how they’ll adapt it to a movie soon

woileyesterday at 3:39 PM

Yes, it's a nice book. Especially if you are not a native English speaking and you are looking to practice your English reading skills. I enjoyed the book and so many of my friends. It's very easy read, and it falls under the hard sci-fi category. I also enjoyed the expanse books!

JonoBByesterday at 2:17 PM

I typically prefer somewhat deeper and more thought-provoking material, but I enjoyed this book. It’s a light page-turner, written-to-be-turned-into-a-movie type book. Overall, I would recommend it.

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ecshaferyesterday at 2:07 PM

No. Any Weir anything is not going to break into the tier of exceptional. Its YA fiction level writing with a bit of science sprinkled in.

sircastortoday at 12:58 AM

I absolutely loved it. It’s well structured. The science is well written, but not overbearing. Fun story.

Andrew_nenakhovyesterday at 2:21 PM

It was on my reading list for a while, and after the movie trailer was released, it finally nudged me and I read it. Took a few hours. It is very easy to read, quite enjoyable being a 'plausible' sci-fi. Though, spoilers ahead, alien part of the story was somewhat disappointing, by being not alien enough.

colechristensentoday at 5:22 AM

It's really good in the way that the best cheeseburger in town is really good. There are snobbish reasons to dislike it, but it is very good at being what it is. It's a superhero story but instead of magical powers and bad guys, it's a nerd being somewhat implausibly good at solving problems in a sci-fi context.

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kyleblarsonyesterday at 2:15 PM

It is a super fast, super fun read.

UltraSaneyesterday at 3:20 PM

The audio book is very very good.

AngryDatayesterday at 2:24 PM

I thought it was a pretty good book as someone who reads a lot of sci-fi. It has a few unique ideas and plot points I haven't seen before, is an accessible read to anyone, and has a satisfying conclusion.

optiontoday at 2:03 AM

Absolutely fantastic book.

asdf6969today at 12:13 AM

It’s not really good. It feels like the author was just trying to recreate the Martian and it was only written to be turned into a movie. It’s a book for people who don’t usually read. Everyone just talks about the audio book

paulcoleyesterday at 11:56 PM

No, it’s not particularly good. I read about 120 books a year, 2/3 of which is genre fiction.

Definitely read The Martian if you haven’t already.

K0baltyesterday at 2:48 PM

Meh, to me it failed to engage. Characters very one dimensional, I’d call it young adult level sophistication . Some cool ideas though.

TBF I am trying to write fiction for the first time in my writing career, and I also suck at characters and non contrived story engagement, so I’m not trying to throw stones here. I do hope, however, to do better in my first published fiction.

bananapubyesterday at 4:02 PM

andy weir is the dan brown of this genre

mystified5016yesterday at 2:14 PM

Yes, absolutely.

It's maybe not a literary masterpiece and it's suspiciously similar to The Martian if you squint. But not many books can get me laughing out loud the second or third time through.

It's a really fun read and I find the aliens particularly compelling in a way that most Sci-Fi doesn't get right.

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