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Marathon fusion claims to invent alchemy, making 5000 kgs gold per gigawatt

21 pointsby apugoneappuyesterday at 10:30 PM38 commentsview on HN

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semicolon_stormyesterday at 11:13 PM

It requires mercury-198 as an input. The only quote I could find for mercury-198 is about $15K per milligram.

So now we just need to figure out how to make mercury-198 cheaply.

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modelessyesterday at 11:01 PM

Unfortunately gold generated in this way would be radioactive. They calculate they would have to store the gold for over 13 years to not require labeling as radioactive waste, or over 17 years to reach the level of radioactivity of a banana.

I bet it would still be less valuable than regular gold even after that. It could still be identified, and people would discriminate against it. People are funny about nuclear waste, and likely wouldn't accept arguments like "it's perfectly safe" and "it's less radioactive than a banana".

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impish9208yesterday at 11:17 PM

Isaac Newton must be spinning in his grave.

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bravesoul2yesterday at 11:15 PM

I dont trust a site that simultaneously says "we are performing a once in a century technical feat" and "we can only say great things about this like we are selling something and not mention potential pitfalls".

oh_my_goodnessyesterday at 11:04 PM

Even if this were true, at 0.15 USD/kWh it would cost more than just buying the gold. Even excluding cost of cleaning up the radioactivity, the equipment, labor, everything except the power.

A GW-year is 8760 GWh. That's 8760/5000 = 1.75 GWh per kg of gold. At 0.15 USD/kWh, a GWh costs $150k US. So 1.75GWh costs about $263k. A kg of gold costs about 100k US.

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dr_dshivyesterday at 11:08 PM

Fuck, yes, this is the future I want. Great job guys, keep at it!

Also—I appreciate the alchemical aspects. A nice aesthetic for a future vision.

cheaprentalyetiyesterday at 10:37 PM

OK, I looked at their web site and couldn't find how they were supposed to be reaching fusion. Can anyone here point me in the right direction?

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leereevesyesterday at 11:06 PM

To be clear, this is something that would be wrapped around a fusion power plant (capturing neutrons produced by fusion), not a viable fusion plant itself nor a way to generate gold from just any power plant, right?

wizzwizz4yesterday at 11:01 PM

> previously a […] PhD candidate in Plasma Physics at Princeton University

The advice is generally not to advertise yourself as having been a PhD candidate: you're basically advertising that you couldn't complete a PhD. (Insert obligatory caveats about academia having problems, and failure to complete a PhD not implying that somebody is incapable.)

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skywhopperyesterday at 11:01 PM

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anigbrowlyesterday at 11:02 PM

Silver stackers win again /s

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paxysyesterday at 11:13 PM

Tl;dr - they wrote a paper