alt Hacker NewsWhilst the headlined article is interesting, it's a case of the new and shiny distracting from regressions in what already exists.
The Raspberry Pi 5 is lacking in some fairly basic support that the Pi 4 has. There's no TianoCore, no NetBSD, no FreeBSD, no OpenBSD, no OmniOS(CE) … in fact nothing at all apart from Raspberry Pi OS. A couple of of the operating systems seem to point the finger at poorly documented hardware changes that the manufacturer has been no help with.
* https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/tree/master/Plat...
* https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/raspberry_pi/#index6h2
* https://www.freebsd.org/where/#download
* https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html
* https://downloads.omnios.org/media/braich/
So the question that comes to my mind is whether this is yet further new and different Raspberry Pi 5 hardware that comes with no software or prospect of software.
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Nothing apart from Raspbian ... and Ubuntu
What does tianocore do for raspberry pi? is it just a shim to add uefi?
I’ve noticed most of the replies to your comment address the first half, and none (as of right now) address the second:
> So the question that comes to my mind is whether this is yet further new and different Raspberry Pi 5 hardware that comes with no software or prospect of software.
If by “this” you mean the MicroSD Express hat from the article: this is a hobby project produced by a hobbyist, who seems to have no plans to sell or mass produce it.
It is unfair to the creator for you to lump it in with, and draw a conclusion from, the works produced by Raspberry Pi Holdings.
RPi dropped the ball relative to the competition. Orange Pi boards outperform them for a fraction of the price. There are very few use-cases where Raspberry is preferable.
we've happily running on routers on the pi5/cm5 since last year (https://www.supernetworks.org) and openwrt support is there as well.
Raspbian works perfectly fine. Most of those other operating systems don’t really have the best GPIO support which is where Raspberry Pi shines. I’d just get a cheap mini pc if I wanted to run something else.
> A couple of of the operating systems seem to point the finger at poorly documented hardware changes that the manufacturer has been no help with.
If only we could have somehow predicted this. I mean who could have predicted that a company that has never released hardware documentation and screwed over individual users in preference to corporate users during shortages would get in the way of porting other OSes. <shocked Pikachu face>
I mean, it's not like people have been bitching about this for more than a goddamn decade.
If only we could have forseen this <rolls eyes>.
An RPI5 4GB is exactly the same price and form factor as the Beagle Y-AI. You can help the folks trying to do this right or not. The choice is yours.
> in fact nothing at all apart from Raspberry Pi OS
How do you figure? E.g. OpenWRT, Ubuntu, Alpine Linux, Kali, and Zephyr all offer official image support. Others have unofficial support, e.g. I think FreeBSD actually falls in this boat.