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seanmcdirmid07/31/20254 repliesview on HN

If everyone could live where they wanted to live, then ya, why wouldn't everyone want to live in the best cities?

If you have fixed demand, then you can definitely "build" your way out of a housing crisis. Bozeman, for example, doesn't have many jobs, so you can't really live there if you don't bring your own money. A big city like Seattle or Denver... they have lots of jobs, so they will grow at least to the point that all those jobs have people working them...but then a city like that attracts even more jobs (the way cities work since they concentrate talent, which attracts more businesses looking for that talent), more people, it could grow from a million people to 10 or 20 million easily.

> And it's very much the kind of small place where "everyone wants to live there".

MT is a bad place if you need to work for a living: high housing prices, jobs don't pay very well if you can find them at all. My mom moved to Helena in the late 90s and found that out first hand. If WFH took off as expected, then you definitely could make a good life in Bozeman or Missoula or Butte, but alas, the opposite happened and we regressed greatly.


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davidw07/31/2025

The population of Bozeman is still growing, albeit more slowly. It's not like people left. They just built a lot of housing, vacancy rates increased and prices dropped.

Same thing happened in Austin, Texas, which is a much bigger city with lots of jobs.

The underlying story is that building enough housing is a good way to fix a shortage of housing, which is what causes high prices.

BoiledCabbage07/31/2025

> If everyone could live where they wanted to live, then ya, why wouldn't everyone want to live in the best cities?

Best is different for different people. Some people it means close to beaches, for other it means cultural institutions, for others it means lots of tech companies, for others it means wide open spaces.

Land is eventually limited, but there is tons of variety available of what people like.

JumpCrisscross07/31/2025

> If everyone could live where they wanted to live, then ya, why wouldn't everyone want to live in the best cities?

I moved from midtown Manhattan to western Wyoming. People have diverse preferences. (Even if we assume uniform preferences, densifying the population into a few cities so we can reclaim our wildlands sounds like a dream.)

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beeflet08/01/2025

Even if you can observe this induced demand locally in a city or two, the net supply is going up.

Globally, demand isn't even fixed. It's proportional to the population size, which we would expect to shrink.

The only way this could work in the opposite direction is that you build enough that it becomes feasible for everyone to live in a few supercities where demand keeps growing due to network effects, and the supply outside of the supercities is useless.

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