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ElectricalUnionlast Saturday at 7:57 PM2 repliesview on HN

> I suppose it's possible that an OS could shim the dialog boxes for file selection, open, save, etc... and then transparently provide access to only those files

Isn't this the idea behind Flatpak portals? Make your average app sandbox-compatible, except that your average bubblewrap/Flatpak sandbox sucks because it turns out the average app is shit and you often need `filesystem=host` or `filesystem=home` to barely work.

It reminds me of that XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1200/


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ryukafalzlast Sunday at 7:53 PM

Yes, Flatpak portals are an implementation of the powerbox pattern. They're still underutilized, though there are more portals specified than I realized at least: https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/portal-api-reference.html

That kind of thing (with careful UX design) is how you escape the sandbox cycle though; if you can grant access to resources implicitly as a result of a user action, you can avoid granting applications excessive permissions from the start.

(Now, you might also want your "app store" interface to prevent/discourage installation of apps with broad permissions by default as well. There's currently little incentive for a developer not to give themselves the keys to the kingdom.)

josh-sematiclast Saturday at 10:45 PM

Or perhaps more relevantly to the overall thread: https://xkcd.com/2044/