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starstripelast Sunday at 3:15 PM4 repliesview on HN

To me "try and" is like a more confident version of "try to." For example, "I will try to win" vs "I'll try and win."


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o11clast Sunday at 3:52 PM

That would be "try, and".

Although the default rule for conjunctions joining predicates is that the comma is optional (by contrast, in most other contexts it is either mandatory or forbidden), there are a lot of circumstances where the comma becomes mandatory to avoid ambiguity or just because.

Etherytelast Sunday at 3:59 PM

The two are not interchangeable though, as shown in the article. If someone asks you "Are you going to win?", you could say "I'll try to", but not "I'll try and".

selimthegrimlast Sunday at 10:11 PM

Not sure this works in simple past though. Cf. Dune “They tried and failed? They tried and died”

RShacklefordlast Sunday at 3:23 PM

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