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__MatrixMan__last Sunday at 11:14 PM2 repliesview on HN

I would only say "try and" if I thought it was likely that I'd at least make some progress towards the goal.

If I expected failure, I'd instead say "try to" fix it.


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hyperpapelast Monday at 1:19 AM

Maybe, but even if true, it's still very clearly different from what the parent said.

To me, "I"m gonna try and fix it before I buy a new one, but that's probably what I'm gonna have to do" is a fine sentence.

yMEyUyNE1last Monday at 8:25 AM

For me, if someone says "try and see for yourself", it implies possibility of failure or something new.

If outcome is considered in terms of success or failure then try implies non-zero probability of failure. If outcome isn't considered in terms of success or failure then "try this flavour of ice-cream" is experience and try this outfit(fits or doesn't) is a test you can't fail. Philosophically, it is as master Yoda said: Do or do not, there is no try.