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kazinatorlast Monday at 4:19 AM1 replyview on HN

"try and <clause>" is syntactically correct.

That is to say,

> I'm going to try and change the course of Hip-Hop.

can be parsed as

> I'm going to try; I'm going to change the course of Hip-Hop.

which has been subject to a well-understood extraposition process to factor out the leading "I'm going to" from all the clauses, so that a single copy of it distributes into all of them.

It's essentially the same as what is going on in the following unassailably correct sentence:

> I'm going to turn on the TV, crack open a beer, and watch the game".

Also note that this "and" is not something which exclusively pairs with "try":

> Linguists, go ahead and fight me!


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jameshartlast Monday at 5:14 AM

There's explanations in the article of why 'try and' can't be parsed as simply as that kind of parallel ellipsis structure.

No reordering: You can't rephrase as I'm going to change the course of Hip-Hop and try the way you can I'm going to watch the game and crack open a beer

No use of both: You can't say I'm going to both try and change the course of Hip-Hop the way you could I'm going to both crack open a beer and watch the game

No inflections: You can't say I have tried and changed the course of Hip-Hop the way you can I have cracked open a beer and watched the game