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Levitzlast Monday at 9:51 AM3 repliesview on HN

>There has never been a utopian past and there will never be a utopian future.

I wouldn't call it utopian, but I'd say we are way past "peak democracy" at this point.

There was a time in which corporations did get broken up when too large, when we did understand that it's about serving the population first and accumulating wealth after that, when corporations influencing politics was widely seen as a negative. It does seem to me we are now way past that.


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worldsayshilast Monday at 10:53 AM

There's no reason why democracy can't peak again and reach new heights. But that won't happen automatically.

Personally I think there are technological preconditions for stable democracy that have recently been countered by authoritarian leaning technology. We need to invent counter technology to those things.

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FredPretyesterday at 3:31 PM

I think everyone would have a problem with the type of domination exhibited by Apple & Google, if they understood it.

There are many voters who are not well versed in tech. You can see this reflected in the kinds of politicians that win, and in the types of issues they are (and are not) fighting over.

It's up to us to make the issues clear and simple.

mlrtimelast Monday at 12:10 PM

And when was this utopia in your opinion? This sounds like rosy retrospection to me.

Or are you talking about a very specific industry, because the thread sounds like it is all society or "Late capitalism" which I disagree with.

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