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boredpuddingyesterday at 11:09 AM4 repliesview on HN

Does the UK not have an option for hourly-pricing? That's usually where as a consumer you can have the most gains. In the summer, with solar panels, my energy bill is negative (in The Netherlands)


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0rdinalyesterday at 11:38 AM

Some suppliers (e.g., Octopus Energy) offer half-hourly tariffs whose rates track the day-ahead wholesale market and are published daily. Prices usually fall when supply is abundant (e.g., windy/sunny periods)

Day ahead pricing: https://agileprices.co.uk/ National grid supply/demand and energy mix: https://grid.iamkate.com/

rcxdudeyesterday at 11:53 AM

Yes, but the hourly price is still largely set by gas, because it's still a minority of the time where renewables are supplying 100% of the grid.

Havocyesterday at 6:02 PM

The UK has a stupid system where the pricing for everything is determined by the most expensive thing in the mix:

>The UK’s electricity market operates using a system known as “marginal pricing”. This means that all of the power plants running in each half-hour period are paid the same price, set by the final generator that has to switch on to meet demand, which is known as the “marginal” unit.

i.e. if you have 99 units of solar but have 100 demand, 1 unit of gas plant fires up to fill it then all 100 units are compensated at the gas rate even if the wind was cheap.

Kognitoyesterday at 11:11 AM

We do, but I can’t imagine it’s hugely popular. Only a few of the smaller suppliers offer it AFAIK.

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