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secret-nounyesterday at 3:26 PM8 repliesview on HN

> OpenAI

> Verified via WebBotAuth: In Progress

Feels like Cloudflare are positioning themselves as the gatekeepers of "good bots". The fact there is an "In Progress" state at all is telling: for everyone else, the answer is "No", but for OpenAI, the answer is "we're not doing it yet, but we've told CF that we plan to".


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progbitsyesterday at 4:24 PM

CF is trying to double dip: they are charging users for their CDN, and now they try to also charge for the privilege of accessing their user's content.

While I love to see openai get scammed I don't think it will stop there. How cheap and useful do you think Kagi or other search engines can stay with this racket? How will Internet Archive operate?

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notatoadyesterday at 7:37 PM

>Cloudflare are positioning themselves as the gatekeepers

i don't really understand how people on this website seem surprised to find out that cloudflare is in the business of blocking unwanted website traffic.

this is literally what their business is and has always been

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o11cyesterday at 5:21 PM

To be fair, a saner way to verify bots has been needed for a long time, and is not only relevant for AI bots.

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egorfineyesterday at 4:39 PM

Unfortunately CloudFlare actually IS in position to stand in line with the rest of the internet gatekeepers.

For now only OpenAI (presumably?) are going to submit and Amazon somehow bent over for that; I hope others will tell them to go have a nice day.

mmaunderyesterday at 4:09 PM

Eastdakota: “The powers that be have been very busy lately, falling over each other to position themselves for the game of the millennium. Maybe I can help deal you back in."

Sam: “I didn’t realize I was out”

Eastdakota: “Maybe not out but certainly being handed your hat.”

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WhereIsTheTruthtoday at 5:15 AM

And then we read stuff like this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45010183

Something is strange

evulhotdogyesterday at 3:38 PM

Amazon had a yes next to it.

echelonyesterday at 3:39 PM

CloudFlare are going to tax the internet like Apple and Google tax smartphones.

Ugh.

On the one hand, I don't like AI bots consuming our traffic to build their proprietary products that they one day hope to put us out of business with.

On the other hand, nobody asked Cloudflare to be the unelected leader of the internet. And I'm sure their policing and taxing will end here...

God damnit, Internet. Can't we have nice open things? Every day in tech is starting to feel like geopolitical Game of Thrones. Kingdoms, winning wars, peasants...

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