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falcor84yesterday at 5:11 AM5 repliesview on HN

I don't understand the sentiment - how does relinquishing control of the hardware help us? I see a possible future where the banks/governments give the people devices to use for these things, and I don't like this future, as these would surely become spy instruments.


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defanoryesterday at 5:57 AM

Not OP, but sharing the sentiment (never had banking or similar software on a phone, yet using ATMs, banks' web interfaces, offices). Avoiding interaction with a bank completely is rarely viable these days, and they will run their software on their hardware to operate either way (whether it is an ATM, a bank office, or a website). I do not see it as relinquishing control of the hardware, since you are not expected to control a bank's hardware in the first place. While setting it on your phone comes with the usual risks of running proprietary software on your machines, such as sneaky data collection. If banks/governments will give mobile devices to people for that, those may act even a little more like electronic ankle bracelets, but they would also be isolated from your other data and software; in places with near-mandatory government software, some choose to create such an isolation by having multiple devices for different purposes.

zigzag312yesterday at 6:51 AM

> how does relinquishing control of the hardware help us

It's not relinquishing control, but separation of concerns for hardware.

Bank should manage their hardware, not your hardware.

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dotancohenyesterday at 7:41 AM

  > the banks/governments give the people devices to use for these things,
Give?

The devices will cost "a reasonable amount" and have GPS tracking "for your safety".

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p0w3n3dyesterday at 5:28 AM

It sounds like an implementation of the Orwell's 1984 telescreen

card_zeroyesterday at 5:45 AM

In what way, if supplied by the bank and used only for contacting the bank to do banking, could a device become a spy instrument?

Kicking banks off the internet/apps would make Android and Apple less cushy.

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