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nickslaughter02yesterday at 12:11 PM6 repliesview on HN

Peter Hummelgaard, Danish Minister of Justice: "I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security ... and given that the prerequisite for freedom is security, yes, I believe that more surveillance equates to more freedom"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45473136


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Telaneoyesterday at 12:16 PM

I'm sure the Stasi would very much agree with him.

The fact that he's actually saying this is incredible, and not in a good way.

I'd love to hear him explain the government exemptions in the bill with this in mind.

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tgvyesterday at 12:17 PM

It's not even the fact that that belief is unfounded, but that he's actually equating a sense of security with security itself that makes that statement a bold yet easily overlooked lie. That he calls himself a social-democrat!

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einarfdyesterday at 9:46 PM

The quotes I've been seeing from him, makes him sound like a cartoon villain, I'm hoping for his sake he is misquoted.

palmoteayesterday at 2:40 PM

> Peter Hummelgaard, Danish Minister of Justice: "I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security ... and given that the prerequisite for freedom is security, yes, I believe that more surveillance equates to more freedom"

I mean, he's kinda right. It just depends on if you feel you're a target or not. If you're not the target, you feel an increased sense of security from any threat caused by the people who are the target.

A really obvious example is a dictator like Kim Jong Un: there's a huge amount of surveillance in North Korea, but all of it serves him and none of it threatens him.

So, especially someone kind of unthoughtful and ignorant of the complexities might feel "an increased sense of security" from this surveillance, because they know they're not a pedophile so assume surveillance purportedly targeted at pedophiles will do them no harm. You might even feel "more freedom" to the degree you feel pedophiles are a threat to you or your family.

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g-b-ryesterday at 12:34 PM

This guy is insane

ekianjoyesterday at 11:07 PM

He probably also believes that war equates to more peace.