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joferyesterday at 3:02 PM2 repliesview on HN

I'm trying to count the rounds of major layoffs in my career (e.g. 10% or more of the company let go at once). I _think_ it's 5, but it might be a bit more. I've been lucky each time, but that also means I wasn't one of the ones taking risks. Layoffs cut from both sides of the performance curve and leave the middle, in my experience.

I wish I'd done this more.

In some cases there was no way to. For example, we once woke up to find that the European half of our team had been laid off as part of huge cuts that weren't announced and even our manager had no idea were coming. There's no good way to do layoffs, but I think that "sudden shock" approach is worst of all, personally. You don't get to say goodbye in any way and people don't get to plan for contingencies at all. (The other extreme of knowing it's coming for a year and applying for your own job and then having 2 months to sit around after you didn't get it also sucks, and I've done that as well. You can at least make plans in that case, though.)

On the other hand, in a _lot_ of other cases, you do have a chance to say goodbye. Take it. This is really excellent advice. It's worth saying something, at very least to the people you really did enjoy working with.

There's a decent chance you work with some of those folks in the future, and even if you don't, it really does mean something to be a kind human.


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rocketpastsixyesterday at 3:41 PM

Theres no good way to do a layoff, but there are tons of bad ways to do them and it seems like we keep finding new ways to make it worse.

cheschireyesterday at 6:23 PM

The "sudden shock" approach is a risk mitigation. You have to ask yourself though, what risk were they mitigating?

There's no good answer to that question I can come up with that should make you want to stay at that company.

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