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WAyesterday at 8:15 PM5 repliesview on HN

I love it. Especially since:

> The campaign has irked some recipients. “In terms of dialog within a democracy, this is not a dialog,” said Lena Düpont, a German member of the European People’s Party group and its home affairs spokesperson, of the mass emails.

It is a dialog. Millions are against it, a few (powerful people) in favor. The powerful are too detached from reality and consider this "not a dialog".

On a meta level, it even gives them a taste of the millions of messages that‘d get flagged false positively monthly, overwhelming police and other systems.


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donmcronaldyesterday at 10:05 PM

> It is a dialog.

It's as much of a dialog as they allow for people to express their views. If I write a politician a well reasoned, thorough explanation of why I support or oppose something, the best outcome I get, as a non-lobbyist, is having a "for" or "against" viewpoint tallied into a giant bucket.

So if elected reps are going to distill our "dialog" down to an aggregated tally of support or opposition, then a canned email covers the entire dialog that's allowed.

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nine_kyesterday at 9:51 PM

It could be a dialog! A dialog takes two sides. Now that the other side has finally heard the voice of literally millions of people who oppose Chat Control, it can respond intelligently, and a dialog would start.

Saying "it's not a dialog" is just evading the (uncomfortable) dialog. Maybe some MEPs are going to actually engage in the dialog.

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JoshTriplettyesterday at 9:23 PM

Exactly. That's the right dialogue to have about this: repeated "no" combined with as much power and leverage can be brought to bear to get people out of office for trying.

Make it a radioactive career-ending move to try.

findthewordsyesterday at 9:23 PM

Not to accuse the Germans but politicians rarely protest lobbying when it involves bribes.

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BobbyTables2today at 1:48 AM

Sounds like it could even be a “modal” dialog!