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codedokodetoday at 2:14 AM5 repliesview on HN

Companies usually promise that the ID would be used only for validation and then immediately deleted. How so many IDs could leak then? They verify millions of IDs per month?


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BLKNSLVRtoday at 3:16 AM

The Discord message (in Australia at least) specifically says:

The information you provide is only used to confirm your age group, then it's deleted

Refer screenshot: https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1nkrxcp/discord...

I can still swipe the message away, so I haven't done it yet. I'm going to work out how I can fake the face scan. I ain't sending Government ID to some chat app (no matter how big or small) that's over the top.

As an aside, I would have thought the age groups should be: 13 to 18, and 18+. They're the only ones that materially matter to the reason this check exists, in Australia at least. I don't want to contribute to their demographic analysis.

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magicalhippotoday at 3:23 AM

From the previous[1] statement:

The unauthorized party also accessed a “small number” of images of government IDs from “users who had appealed an age determination.”

It makes sense they have to hang on to the ID in case of processing an appeal, which probably doesn't have the highest priority and hence stretches out in time.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/news/792032/discord-customer-servic...

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encrypted_birdtoday at 2:39 AM

Do they actually say in the TOS that they will delete them? If they do, do they say immediately? How immediately? Right away or, perhaps, 1 month? Unless specified in contractual documentation, words like "immediately" or "soon" do not have any single definition, which allows them to stretch it without technically being in breach of contract. Not to mention that often times, governments mandate data retention for so-and-so amount of time, so the companies are legally required in such cases to keep the data even if they, miraculously, desire not to.

o11ctoday at 2:52 AM

Lying is usually legal.

And even if lying is illegal in a particular context, it's de-facto legal since nobody ever gets punished for it.

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samplitoday at 3:09 AM

deleted = database column

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