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ryandrakeyesterday at 2:41 PM1 replyview on HN

Calling "victim blaming" is not a retort.

There is nothing wrong with dividing up blame among both people who offer a risky choice and people who make the risky decision to accept that choice, just because one of them suffered the downside of that risk. There are a lot of other examples where if you screw something up you might get hurt, and the victim is definitely at fault. It's a spectrum, as someone else put it.

Sending your government ID over the Internet is a very risky decision, given the number and frequency of data breaches. The people who got burned here are not totally at fault but they share at least a little responsibility.


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jamwilyesterday at 3:12 PM

If Discord says they delete the PII they collect and they ultimately fail to do that, whether by malice or negligence Discord owns 100% of the blame.

If I get drunk and drive the wrong way down the highway and cause a wreck, the blame is not shared because the victim was driving a vehicle which is known to be a risky activity. I am culpable, full stop.

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